![]() ![]() I guess, so my question Tom to you and to Andy is if you because I I noted the, you know, the idea of using like the standing joint task force. And so I mean, I know having broken my own pick on this working on, you know, counterinsurgency and stabilization in Iraq and Afghanistan and the second term of Bush forty three that getting a whole of government solutions is a huge town for the United States. I mean, the idea of separation of powers and preventing centers of power accreting more and more power to themselves within government was sort of part of the design of the founders. And I would argue, I mean, and please tell me if you think this is wrong, but that the American political system is actually in some ways was built to prevent whole of government solutions. And we’ve clearly had a lot of difficulty coming to grips with this, to have a whole of government solution. The point you raise gets to actually the next point I wanted to kinda dig into which is the whole question of whole of government and even whole of society solutions for some of these, particularly some of the transnational national security problems as opposed to the more regionally focused ones. And Tom Shanker, who is currently the director of the project for media and national security at George Washington University, and also probably known to many podcast listeners as a former national security and foreign policy editor and reporter for the New York Times and a former colleague as well when he covered the Pentagon. I’m Eric Edelman, counselor at the Center for Strategic and budgetary assessments, a Bulwark contributor and a nonresident fellow, at the Miller Center, My normal partner in this enterprise, Elliott Cohen, the Robert e Ozgood professor of strategy at the Johns Hopkins University school of Advanced International Studies in the Arleigh Burke Chair of Strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies is traveling But I have as our very special guest today, two authors of a recent book Andrew Hone, who’s a senior vice president and director of research at the rand corporation and also a former colleague in government where he was deputy assistant secretary of defense for strategy. Virginia and dedicated to the proposition First articulated by Walter Littman during World War two that a strong and balanced foreign policy is the absolutely essential shield of our Democratic Republic. Shield of the Republic is a Bulwark podcast co-sponsored by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia. The authors of Age of Danger: Keeping America Safe in an Era of New Superpowers, New Weapons, and New Threats (New York: Hachette Books, 2023) discuss why we are entering an age of greater danger than we have known since the end of the Cold War, the nature of the government’s machinery for warning and action in the national security realm, the feasibility and desirability of “whole-of-government” and “whole-of-society” solutions to these looming national security challenges, the legacy of Andrew Marshall (the director of the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment for 40 years), the role of cost-imposing strategies and the use of attritable unmanned aircraft and sensors for deterring the PRC in the Taiwan Strait, the nature of “unobtanium”, and the Russian war on Ukraine. ![]() With Eliot on the road again Eric hosts Andrew Hoehn, Senior VP and Director of Research at the RAND Corporation, and Thom Shanker (formerly New York Times national security reporter and editor) Director of the Project for Media and National Security at George Washington University. ![]()
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